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hoser 06-02-2008 08:54 AM

Here ya go Scott :)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

Lotharr 06-02-2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoser (Post 5117)

Oy vai... that's a bit more reading than I have time for right now. I'll read it tonight and comment more then. (I'm kind of swamped at work today.) :eek:

Thanks for that though... and I had not received that particular email (yet).

Tidy 06-02-2008 11:29 AM

I really don't understand the fear of McCain. The man has a much better grip than Bush ever has. He's not a Bush clone tho there is a marketing campaign to portray that image now.

One man does not run this country and we have problems when the man in charge doesn't have respect. Everyone respected Reagan. Then Bush 1 was the shadow of that era and We all know how Clinton lost his respect. Bush 2 had a chance to really unite the country and lead it somewhere but he led us to vengeance for his father in the interests of his buddies. The big oil guys love the president.

I think Hillary has gotten a super huge bum rap from Obama. I heard comment once that she should throw out the votes from Kentucky because exit poles showed they were racially biased. Fine I can accept that but I am not an idiot. Many of the Votes Obama has received are based on his race. I guarantee all those votes weren't based on researched information. This just proves how much our society lends itself to trend and marketing.

We are in a time when we have deeply committed our resources to the mess in Iraq. The country needs a leader who is familiar with those cost and I don't agree that McCain is any sort of war monger, just experienced @ the price of war. Bush hasn't even got a clue to McCains insight.
I also think everyone in power respects McCain on some level.

If DC was a car dealership Obama's the lube tech that just got a promotion from lot washer. McCain's like the Transmission Tech. I'll take the latter for putting my trust into.

hoser 06-02-2008 12:29 PM

Having been researching Mcdoodle I've had the pleasure of watchig his muttering forgetful oldself stumblebum, and refute his own words.
Thats kind of scary :)

For instance here's a few of the myriads ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5J...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
I know several are hack jobs, but most appear in context.

Tidy 06-02-2008 02:09 PM

I know his media skills are not that of Obama but we could do clips like that for anyone out there. His stance on the gay marriage has always been the same...civil union of some sort but marriage is man and woman. He has the experience knowing the tools of the government to effect the economy but always looks to other with more expertise. Taxes raised and lowered doesn't reflect what bills either... We all know we will be taxed, how is the question and I still think he has our interests over his own personal goals. I am not saying he's perfect but I think it's an easy choice for who is better to lead the country. My biggest view is that we have created Mid east L.A. thanks to George Bush.. it's a gangland in a power struggle after the Saddam vacuum. We will never irradicate terrorism much like we won't win the war on drugs... But we can't tax terrorism. I sure don't have the answers, I'll refer ya to Scott for those.lol

Ghanzafar 06-02-2008 06:20 PM

You people keep thinking the prsident and congress runs this country. You are all wrong. What runs this country is the big banking industry. The main objective for the big banks is to drive the american dollar down so much that they will bail us out like they did in the great depression before when the american dollar was backed by Gold. We use to be a industrialized nation all our industry has moved to thrid world countries. All america is now is for education medical and tourist. We have nothing to contribute to the world anymore so this is the beginning of the end so deal with it.

hoser 06-02-2008 09:56 PM

Does that computer you use come with spell check?

Lotharr 06-03-2008 09:59 AM

Good Editorial from IBD on Obama

He's scarier all the time...

hoser 06-03-2008 02:46 PM

McCain calls UFC 'barbaric' and boxing ok, then reverses when UFC makes Budweiser deal that profits his wife

Tidy 06-03-2008 08:44 PM

I only read the first page but it said his stance change came after they implimented rules to MMA. The tie to his wife was BUD and pro boxing with MMA as a competitor threatening that which is a bit far


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