Single Largest Cigarette Tax Hike Goes Into Effect Wednesday

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Originally Posted by andyofne

Ain't going to argue there.

I have no idea how things are going to be 'fixed' but I can't imagine that George W would be doing any better at this point.

GW did go after terrorists with the military in Iraq and afganistan and it saved us from another 911 and does not compare to what democrats did to our financial system. My idea would be to remove the democrats and a number of republicans from power. Believe me I have a problem with some republicans who are worthless as tits on a bull. But the root of our financial problems came from Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Obama also is to blame while working for Acorn as he was involved with lawsuits forcing CitiBank to lend money to persons who had no chance of paying back. That made all the financial institutions scared of being labeled racists if they did not do the same. That lowered all lending standards and caused such an irresponsible generation who thought they could fund everything with credit down to their underwear. So putting Obama, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank in charge of spearheading the economy is like putting Colonel Sanders in charge of the population of chickens. All that debt and bad democrat policy put us into such a financial crisis when the gas prices went up put all bad loans ever the edge. Yeah Democrats and RINOs. All those bad politicians should be deported to Russia

[andyofne]

Originally Posted by *XxDADxX*

GW did go after terrorists with the military in Iraq and afganistan and it saved us from another 911 and does not compare to what democrats did to our financial system. My idea would be to remove the democrats and a number of republicans from power. Believe me I have a problem with some republicans who are worthless as tits on a bull. But the root of our financial problems came from Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Obama also is to blame while working for Acorn as he was involved with lawsuits forcing CitiBank to lend money to persons who had no chance of paying back. That made all the financial institutions scared of being labeled racists if they did not do the same. That lowered all lending standards and caused such an irresponsible generation who thought they could fund everything with credit down to their underwear. So putting Obama, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank in charge of spearheading the economy is like putting Colonel Sanders in charge of the population of chickens. All that debt and bad democrat policy put us into such a financial crisis when the gas prices went up put all bad loans ever the edge. Yeah Democrats and RINOs. All those bad politicians should be deported to Russia

So, the financial crisis was created by Obama?

[Tidy]

Bahh, we live in a marketing society that is driven by credit. Hollywood and NY start of using the media muscle to push everything down everyone's throats. People eat it up too, and then no one can get it but the bankers pass around IOU's and write paper checks to pay for these goods. And the rest of the population is now paying taxes and making payment. Where is the true capitol?

This isn't a political crisis as much as it is a social one. Obama isn't gonna slap Hollywood hard with taxes, you think Oprah is worth all that money. I grew up in DC and spent lots of time pummeled by the inner loop lingo . If we have a capitol that is a dump if you go 10 blocks in any direction from the mall, how are they gonna fix the country? People need to get back to doing things instead of being scared by the media... The sun is gonna rise tomorrow I know it. The big machine will push forward and times will again get better.

On the Tobacco thing, well the valley I live in was full of tobacco farmers when I was a kid. I mean it was everywhere and the burley tobacco auctions were a huge deal. Now there is not one tobacco farm. The tax should be placed on the imported tobacco and bring back American farming. I can only imagine how the valley would smell if they were to legalize marijuana. That would most definitely stimulate my local economy. And I am not talking about Jay and Silent Bob, but real old man farmers could afford to put their tractors back to work.

I don't get either why talk of universal coverage is so associated with socialism? I easily see where we should have a basic needs system in place where imminent life threatening illnesses and emergency care should be available to all, but still I am sure the private practices would flourish and people would still buy insurance to get better choices.

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Originally Posted by andyofne

So, the financial crisis was created by Obama?

Actually Andy more in this order: Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and Obama

[andyofne]

Well then, now you're getting some where. But it amazes me that people are so blinded by their party affiliation that they will hold harmless the guy that ran the show for the last 8 years.

I can't even begin to understand how you can blindly ignore it.

[ALLT4]

At all costs.... blame Bush and the GOP. Deflect, deflect Will Robinson.

What I do blame Bush for is caving into the Libtards and Dems too often.

Back on subject though, I smoke and now think even better than quitting for my health is to quit to spite the Media's Messiah. I made the day the tax hits in my area the day I quit. Not another penny more than I have to will I give to the Socialist cause.

[andyofne]

Originally Posted by ALLT4

At all costs.... blame Bush and the GOP. Deflect, deflect Will Robinson.

What I do blame Bush for is caving into the Libtards and Dems too often.

Back on subject though, I smoke and now think even better than quitting for my health is to quit to spite the Media's Messiah. I made the day the tax hits in my area the day I quit. Not another penny more than I have to will I give to the Socialist cause.

Lookie here, I'm not saying "blame bush" I'm saying let's not ignore his administrations role in all of this.

But the same folks who are saying "deflect deflect" and want to absolve Bush of everything are the ones blaming the guy whose been in office for 73 days.

[ALLT4]

It's time for The One, the great community organizer to stand on his own. How long do we blame Bush for anything that happens from today forward? I guess if you watch MSLSD you can do it forever. Again I'll blame Bush and Company for not running Bawney and Dodd out of town. Dems held congress for the last two years of Bush's second term. I guess it WAS Bush's fault he didn't try harder to regulate Fanny and Freddie. Look up some numbers and see when the shit started hitting the fan. Pubs were blocked at every turn trying to regulate Fannie and Freddie with more than cooked books.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Yes Andy the financial crisis is patially due to Obama...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

I myself wasn't particulary impressed with Bush and Company, but if the Messiah is all he's cracked up to be along with a total Dem Libtard controlled Congress we should see the Country in total bliss soon right? But it seems the more time goes along all we're seeing is more spending with no end in sight. More backdoor taxes on smokes, beer is coming, wait for Cap and Trade, God I hope that doesn't pass or we're screwed, more direct taxes on small business, gas will be the next thing because it's evil to drive to work to pay those taxes. Is Bush doing this? Find me some evidence how Bush and Company caused the housing bubble. The root cause of the Ecomonic crisis we're in.

For God sakes stop watching PMSNBC, Obledick and cum in pants Matthews are so far in the tank for the Messiah it's shameful. They're talking about how Michelle is dressing, these are the important facts to them.

The only good thing to come out of all this is that I can buy a shitload of low priced stocks that have no where to go but up. It's a hell of roller coaster right now but it seems every second day I gain more than I lose on the inbetween days. If the Messiah would just stay off TV, keep his yap closed and let the free market run it's course things would turn around much faster.