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Old 02-12-2010, 08:36 PM
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Well I guess you have it all figured out.
hell no, I don't have anything figured out. I just responded to your comments because they were more opinion which can be discussed. My errors in spelling or what have you like Dawson saw are just amateur mistakes I made. The site in general tho, isn't intended to be like other car sites so I don't know what you based professional on by comparison?

Dawg, a few of the tracks don't have reps that use the site so they aren't aware of the project but a few of our guys do go to those tracks so we gave them discussion areas.
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:18 PM
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Everything I mentioned is just basic web design methods. It's more or less the "standard" on web development, but I just touched base. If you aren't interested in that, then don't worry about asking people for critique; when you yourself said you are building the site to suit the people who you target directly, so if they like it...
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Old 02-13-2010, 03:40 PM
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Everything I mentioned is just basic web design methods. It's more or less the "standard" on web development, but I just touched base. If you aren't interested in that, then don't worry about asking people for critique; when you yourself said you are building the site to suit the people who you target directly, so if they like it...
Like I said (more or less), it's pointless to offer advice to someone who has already made up his mind.

This is one of the main reasons I stopped trying to design web sites. It was impossible to take what was in a clients head and put it together in a way that actually worked and resembled what they wanted. Most of the time it was a back and forth battle of putting hours and hours into something only to have the person say 'that's not what I want' and then describe something with lots of animated gifs and flash navigation, etc, etc, etc.

The other part is that I really wasn't very good at web design. It doesn't hurt to admit that, it's just a fact. It doesn't bother me. I'm much happier now when I go download a theme or template and apply it globally and just enjoy the fruits of some other person's artistic labors.

If you're happy with the site then why ask folks for feedback?
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:02 PM
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I didn't take offense but Dawson found my proof mistakes ( which happen a lot) Andy brought up a valid point on loading time, however the others confirmed fast load on there end and the file is small. Again, it's not a flash site, but the front page has a flash element.

It's not that I didn't take your criticism, but saying something is amateur is debatable, saying something is spelled wrong or that I need to optimize a file wouldn't be.

The web is dynamic, so where does the standard come from? I see lots of impressive flash sites, but optimizing is difficult.

The navigation point was noted which most wouldn't pick up on so I explained the 2 markets for the front end and back end.

Overall impression of the general public was what I was looking for. Text too small, irregular contrast issues etc. I figure you've been on a lot of car sites and maybe that's the standard, but it isn't a professional standard but just average or par for the course. I want to set myself apart from par and be a little unique so I explained it to you or justified what you mentioned. So you didn't think I blew off your comments and realized I welcomed discussion. Had you said that the flash scroller text looks amateur I would have agreed, but just to say flash on a site is amateur I didn't agree with since it's most all pro sites have flash elements.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:35 PM
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hell no, I don't have anything figured out. I just responded to your comments because they were more opinion which can be discussed. My errors in spelling or what have you like Dawson saw are just amateur mistakes I made. The site in general tho, isn't intended to be like other car sites so I don't know what you based professional on by comparison?

Dawg, a few of the tracks don't have reps that use the site so they aren't aware of the project but a few of our guys do go to those tracks so we gave them discussion areas.
That's fine. Didn't know if it was an error or not but it appeared to be so I offered it up to be corrected. If it is as intended then all is well.
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:55 PM
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That's fine. Didn't know if it was an error or not but it appeared to be so I offered it up to be corrected. If it is as intended then all is well.
Hopefully by years end I'll have all them on board. I have been focusing n Bristol though because of the prestige of the track.. It goes on long way towards helping enlist local support having a good relationship with one of the baddest dragstrips on the planet.

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No matter what anyone says brother, you have a nice site going there and I do see sucess in the future.
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Old 02-21-2010, 05:18 AM
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Like I said (more or less), it's pointless to offer advice to someone who has already made up his mind.
I even hesitated when I made that reply. Thought on it, left...came back and only gave a very short, to the point reply to test the waters. Other wise, I would have given a much more in depth "review" of the site from an end user standpoint. It's all good though, I didn't waste much time typing that.

I'm not the worlds greatest at web design either, but I do understand that basics rather well.
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:33 PM
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So you are upset that I decided to offer it for discussion instead of not replying? I took what you said into consideration but you're missing the issue that you posted style critiques. I tried to explain why I chose the style I did and somehow I guess you take that as bad.

You cannot please everyone with one style obviously. The object is merely to find a happy medium within your target demo graphic when it comes to style. Now grammar errors and performance issues are a different beast in their own.

I wasn't downing your abilities as a web designer but I am not taking them as the rule either. If you're so enlightened then you would need to convince me that your observations were based on more than personal taste. That has nothing to do with basics of graphic design. The site is still a WIP and I did take your comments to heart but I merely disagreed on the style points.
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Go by some "How to build web sites" type books and read them. You'll see my "opinion" wasn't based on opinion, but basic web design principles.
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